View Full Version : I want Refresh button to realy reload -IE5-
redhades
08-28-2001, 07:36 PM
Have you ever notice that clicking on the Iexplorer REFRESH button does not realy reload the webpage. All it does is reload it from the cache instead of reloading from the net. It's the same thing with F5. I know that CTRL+F5 reaload the page from the net, but is there a way to configure the IE button to really reload the webpages like CTRL+F5 does.
Maybe I could create a new button in the toolbar through the registery, but I dont know the command that executes a complete reload.
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Paul D
08-29-2001, 02:06 AM
Refresh works properly for me - definitely goes back to the website.
Paul D
billydee
08-29-2001, 09:44 AM
Go to Tools>Internet Options>General>Temporary Internet Files Settings.
Select Check for newer versions of stored pages:Every visit to the page<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>
Specifies that when you return to a page you viewed previously, Internet Explorer should check to see whether the page changed since you last viewed it. If the page has changed, Internet Explorer displays the new page and stores it in the Temporary Internet Files folder. Note that selecting this option can slow down browsing between pages you have already viewed.
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redhades
08-29-2001, 02:33 PM
Yes that would make sure that web pages are always reloaded from the internet. But it would render the internet cache useless. I still want to use the cache and be able to reload pages when needed.
But this post is not about enabling or dissabling the complete reload fuction. -Sorry for not being clear about that. I want to change de the behaviour of the refresh buton to execute unconditional reload, or to create a new buton with that behaviour. I allready know how to add a custom button, I just dont know what the command is for a reload.
Of course I could just do CTRL+F5 but not all the poeple who use the public computers at work don't know of this. I need to make it easyer for them.
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RWSchlatter
08-29-2001, 11:30 PM
Well - either you have a reload on every access - then of course the TIF is nearly useless -> reduce its size.
On the other hand, check the other settings - from what you mentioned, J think "Automatically" may be more what you are looking for.
Tip: if you're unsure about choosing the optin, use the help that MS has supplied -> over each of the possible settings, use mouse right-click and the "What's this" menu item and read the exact conditions of reload.
"... I just dont know what the command is for a reload..."
References that may help you:
<a target="_blank" href=http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/browser/webbrowser/reference/ifaces/iwebbrowser2/refresh.asp>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/browser/webbrowser/reference/ifaces/iwebbrowser2/refresh.asp</a>
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Regards - Richard
Paul D
08-29-2001, 11:35 PM
This interests me. I'm no techo, but what evidence do you have that the refresh button doesn't refresh from the website?
I'll swear blind that when I hit the refresh button, that is exactly what happens. The obvious casde in point is forums, where, if I post and then go back, the thread list is obviously loaded from cache, but is refreshed from the website as soon as I hit the button.
I'm not having a shot at you. I'm just interested.
Paul D
RWSchlatter
08-29-2001, 11:49 PM
"... do you have that the refresh button doesn't refresh from the website? ..."
Open the Internet Options -> from the General tab in the TIF area, choose Settings button and study the possibilities !
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Regards - Richard
redhades
08-30-2001, 03:11 AM
Reply to Paul D...
I know of this because I have installed on my home computer a proxy freeware that filters and removes certain script (popups and other anoying scrips) from webpages and feeds them back to my browser. Of cours, the modified pages end up in my TempIF.
I noticed that the proxi wase killing some vital scrips on my.yahoo.com (Button where not working). So I shut down the proxy and clicked the refresh button. But the webpage was still not working right. I instinctivly emptied the TempIF. Iexplorer had no choice but to reload the page from the net. Than the page was working right.
This is my proof that Iexplorer only reloads the pages that are more recent. Those that Iexplorer judge to be the same are loaded from the TempIF.
I later learned about CTRL+F5.
*** Off topic ***
I flushed that stupid proxy and found a better one:
PROXOMITRON
It's great. Everybody should try it. The basic setting work like a charm. But if you know html and java, you cand transform this baby in the most usfull internet tool there is. But even if you dont know squat (like me), It performs great.
GO GET IT!!!!
<a target="_blank" href=http://spywaresucks.org/prox/>http://spywaresucks.org/prox/</a>
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Smitty
08-30-2001, 03:51 AM
I agree..
Posted this site on the 19th, you must have missed it..
Smitty
Paul D
09-13-2001, 05:32 AM
I'm still not entirely convinced.
The way I understood it, those settings apply when you hit the forward and back buttons, or when you you revisit a page from the address bar or a history entry, but not when you hit the refresh button.
For instance, in the Windows Annoyances forum, if I post, and then hit the back button, I will NOT see my post added to the list, and the post list comes back pretty well instantly. However, when I then hit the refresh button, the page reloads much more slowly, and I see my post added to the list.
In the forums here, if I read a thread, and then use the back button to return to the thread list, the thread I have just read still has the not read mark on it, and I then have to refresh to see it removed. However, if I read a thread and then use the Up arrow thingy to return, it does refresh the thread list, in that the not read marker is gone.
That's all I can go on, my own experience.
Paul D
redhades
09-13-2001, 07:04 PM
Im not an expert in webpage desing or scripting, but I think that some webpages have some html or java that make them auto-reloadable or always forced reload (something like that). Also, page with dinamic html that rely on a remote database. These type of pages may only be reloaded from the domaine cuz there content are constantly modified like message boards.
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