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MimomaN
03-04-2008, 05:08 PM
Hello ,
i was using Spyware Doctor v5.5.0.204 with anti virus
i done update and all ok
but every time i make restart Spyware Doctor sayes
(spyware doctor engine is starting.. ) for along time
and its eating my computer ram
:( :(
so what can i do please to make it start normally without this massage
i have XP windows .. 256 MB ram
please help i will kill my self if i cant find any solve
swannie
03-04-2008, 06:46 PM
First of all, don't kill yourself:D
Your problem here appears to be not enough RAM. The barest minimum to get SD up and running is 512. Without that, SD is not going to start. RAM is pretty cheap so my best advice is a quick upgrade to AT LEAST 512 but more if possible.
MimomaN
03-04-2008, 07:23 PM
i dont think so my friend
because it starts when i leave it for some time
but the problem its take many time to start normally
and i think thats shouldn't happened every time i tern on my pc :(
ingold
03-04-2008, 07:44 PM
Still, it is a good idea to upgrade. It could make it start faster. As for me, I'm using 512 Megabytes of memory, it works fine. :)
Also, please don't kill yourself!
MimomaN
03-04-2008, 08:19 PM
thanx ingold
but may be this is bug in the program itself ?
or some thing in the start up make Spyware Doctor engine crash or some thing
any way i tried this steps
http://www.pctools.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180086&postcount=3
but the problem still :o
PTW : i will not kill my self i was just kidding :p
life is beautiful but if it without any virus or Trojans :D
mjq424
03-04-2008, 08:51 PM
Hi
As has been said before, this is not a bug in the program. I'm afriad you need more RAM on your system in order to run Spyware Doctor. Windows XP itself uses approximately 200MB RAM without anything esle running. Spyware Doctor then uses approx 200MB RAM (including Virtual Memory).
You could try just increasing the Virtual Memory by doing the following:
Right-click My Computer
Select Properties > Advanced > Performance > Settings
Under the Advanced tab click on the Change button to increase your Virtual Memory. On average your Virtual Memory should be 1.5 times the size of your RAM (in your case, about 370MB should do it).
Hope that helps
MimomaN
03-04-2008, 09:48 PM
thanx mjq424
but i am allready done it befor
see this pic
http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08102/my-vm832.jpg
:(
Reodor
03-04-2008, 11:23 PM
This is nothing new, a lot of us have been there and learned the lesson.
Up and running, You may have enough ram, but to get there before the sun sets: upgrade to a minimum of 512 RAM.
The second alternative, without any promise, is to remove SD from start up and then start it manually after boot up of the comp. However You will soon experience other problems as You keep on. At start up it pulls about 180 RAM, running 40-50.
Third option is to go to 4.1 which soon seems to be out of date.
MimomaN
03-04-2008, 11:34 PM
thanx Reodor
may be th 3rd option the best for me
you know i installed thes program for only one virus :)
it was ( JS/Exploit.RealPlay.E ) :(
i was using ESET Smart Security but it didn't delete it
and need it in some bad sites block
any way i dont have many Viruse " it was only JS/Exploit.RealPlay.E "
so if i installed Spywate Doctor V4 will be ok with me ?
and thanx again :)
Reodor
03-05-2008, 12:43 AM
It is all a question of where You want to put Your money.
If You have a full paid version and out of the 30 day money back of SD V5.5 - give V4.1 a try.
If You have paid for a full paid version and are within the 30 day trial, get Your money back, use it for RAM and try the Google pack or another app.
If You are on e 'free' version spend the money on RAM and try the Google pack.
If You do not want to spend any money any where, try the Superantispyware (SAS) free version. Does not work real-time, but has a good cleaner and detection in the free version.
If money is not the problem, Your CPU is a P4 -1,8 or higher, upgrade the RAM, preferably 1 gig, and give the PCTIS as stand alone (no other security app) a try.
This is just my short opinions, there are probably as many other as there are computer users. ;)
I have a client's laptop in the shop and it had 256MB of sodium and added another 256MB and total of 512MB. Spydoctor took a 470MB of that Ram. There is a problem with the overbloat or hog of a program. I told Client to get rid of it and get a free defender from Micros***, which is not such a hog. Bad proramming setup for use on pcs.
I will try to limit its access, (If I can), or It will be gone from the system.
If the admins for PC-Tools can't get the Software company to adjust there problem software, it maybe Trash-bin Material. So it is up to you guys to supply the Correct answers or note to all about the problem. I'm not being upset about it, just giving my oppion as an IT tech, because most people have no idea if they got spyware install from SpyDoctor or maybe it is??
ninnpwint
03-05-2008, 07:10 PM
hi all
just wondering is this telling me that
is PCTool Spyware Doctor using too much cpu and memory resources?
i noticed was not that much before or just my imagination
ninnpwint
03-05-2008, 10:26 PM
hi way
please see screenshot above
is that what it is?
thanks
c_edge
03-05-2008, 11:01 PM
hi way
please see screenshot above
is that what it is?
thanks
Have you always been using SDv5?
SDv5 does require some amount of resources due to the real time protection. I think the v5 Onguard tools have been improved quite alot compared to that of v4 and uses abit more resources. The bare minimum to run SD is 256megs, but that's probably all you can run. See Reodor's reply. You'll definitely need at least 512megs to run it properly. What are you're computer specs anyhow? And are you running anything else? Are you having problems with you're pc?
c_edge
ninnpwint
03-06-2008, 02:24 AM
thanks anyway for your post c_edge
I just unstalled it, as we get 60 buck an Hour for shop work and they needed there laptop now, and probly shocked as they bought more memory$$$ and SD ate it up. Time and money cost to run this program leaves out more debugging of SpyDoctor behavior. They seen what it did on the laptop when I shut (SD) down. It went from 470MB down to 104MB of memory usage. The CPU usage was at 4%, and Memory at 470MB when SpyDoctor was on the XP laptop. To bad for the (SD) program being uninstalled but and being compatible for certain HP laptops or programs they have. Thanks for the input, everyone.
Reodor
03-06-2008, 11:31 AM
I have a feeling You are mixing RAM and PF memory?
Never have I ever managed to come close to the RAM usage You indicate, but PF is a different thing. Did You run V5 or V5.5?
Phenom
03-07-2008, 12:37 AM
ppl use eset smart security or nod32 for antispyware use spy sweeper for now until the memory issue is fixed.
> when I shut (SD) down. It went from 470MB down to 104MB of memory
> usage. The CPU usage was at 4%, and Memory at 470MB when SpyDoctor
> was on the XP laptop.
I don't believe this. Something _else_ is wrong. We have multiple XP computers. None of them ever get down to 104 MB of memory useage.
Reodor
03-07-2008, 11:53 PM
> when I shut (SD) down. It went from 470MB down to 104MB of memory
> usage. The CPU usage was at 4%, and Memory at 470MB when SpyDoctor
> was on the XP laptop.
I don't believe this. Something _else_ is wrong. We have multiple XP computers. None of them ever get down to 104 MB of memory useage.
Check the drop in PF usage, and You might get something similar.
Xp will run on 64MB recommend 128, and depending what applications run as muti-sessions, and you may need more Physical Ram. By saying usage of the memory in the laptop only used 104MB Physical Ram, when the Spydoctor shut down. The only way to test SpyDoctor would be time and 250 bucks from the client for XP reinstall, then install the SD to see it action as there might be a conflict of what they have on there HP laptop.
I also could not find the requirements for what the SpyDoctor application: how much Ram it reqiures itself, CPU processing itself and required average reads and writes it will do, as in its performance and needs to operate on a XP OS. Most retail software gives you that.
So you can consider this closed. But I will try to get time on my own, not a work to do further looking in to the matter as some of you say no problems with it.
Thanks guys for the input.