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ItwouldRuin
03-18-2007, 06:35 PM
Does SD remove all typ of malware?
mjq424
03-18-2007, 09:24 PM
Does SD remove all typ of malware?
Hi
For a list of all the malware that SD removes go to: http://www.pctools.com/mrc/infections/
If you find an infection that is not detected by SD you can submit it here: http://www.pctools.com/mrc/submit/
ItwouldRuin
03-19-2007, 10:00 AM
Hi
For a list of all the malware that SD removes go to: http://www.pctools.com/mrc/infections/
If you find an infection that is not detected by SD you can submit it here: http://www.pctools.com/mrc/submit/
Okey, I will. Thanks. :)
ItwouldRuin
03-19-2007, 10:01 AM
Okey, I will. Thanks. :)
Another quetsion I forgot to ask, if SD not detects the virus, how would you then know I I have a malware in my computer?
Is there a way to see if I have a virus in my computer easily?
Support
03-19-2007, 01:50 PM
Hi,
Spyware Doctor will not remove virus from your computer, Spyware Doctor removes spyware and malware infections and protects your computer from spyware or malware infections. If at the end of scan, it shows you 0 infections, that means your computer is clean of spyware and malware infections. If you feel that you have symptoms of spyware in your computer, you can let us know so we can investigate it further.
Hopefully my explanation above answers your query.
Kind Regards,
PC Tools Support
ItwouldRuin
03-19-2007, 07:00 PM
Hi,
Spyware Doctor will not remove virus from your computer, Spyware Doctor removes spyware and malware infections and protects your computer from spyware or malware infections. If at the end of scan, it shows you 0 infections, that means your computer is clean of spyware and malware infections. If you feel that you have symptoms of spyware in your computer, you can let us know so we can investigate it further.
Hopefully my explanation above answers your query.
Kind Regards,
PC Tools Support
It really didn't. :o
I maybe wrote wrong, I know it only detects Spyware..
But I read about Spyware like Look2Me that Spyware Doctor didn't remove, so how could I know what kind of Spyware I have and more detailed information without SD? (If it possibly happnes that a Spyware which cannot be detected appears!)
Thanks.
WarrenG
03-19-2007, 09:57 PM
Read the post that support sent you again....It makes perfect sense. SD removes VX2 look2me, i had it on my PC and sd detected it and removed it. It is the best tool for removing spyware on the market period! If you are that paranoid and still think stuff is lurking on your PC, then buy another spyware product, run it after an SD scan and see what it picks up.
Read my above post again and again until it sinks in. The only way to end your paranoia of threats is to run SD, then run as many spyware programs as you want and see what they pick up. However, if you install all the spyware programs out there your PC is not going to run well at all.
ItwouldRuin
03-19-2007, 11:32 PM
Read the post that support sent you again....It makes perfect sense. SD removes VX2 look2me, i had it on my PC and sd detected it and removed it. It is the best tool for removing spyware on the market period! If you are that paranoid and still think stuff is lurking on your PC, then buy another spyware product, run it after an SD scan and see what it picks up.
Read my above post again and again until it sinks in. The only way to end your paranoia of threats is to run SD, then run as many spyware programs as you want and see what they pick up. However, if you install all the spyware programs out there your PC is not going to run well at all.
I watched in the list and I didn't find th SPyware Look2me.
And am I a really noob, because I think you should read my post above and really answer the wuestion! (Not to be rude.)
WarrenG
03-20-2007, 12:01 AM
I watched in the list and I didn't find th SPyware Look2me.
And am I a really noob, because I think you should read my post above and really answer the wuestion! (Not to be rude.)
http://www.pctools.com/mrc/infections/id/VX2.Look2Me
I did answer all your questions, read the post one more time....
ItwouldRuin
03-20-2007, 12:35 AM
http://www.pctools.com/mrc/infections/id/VX2.Look2Me
I did answer all your questions, read the post one more time....
My question is:
If SD cannot detect the spyware, how can I manually detect it on my computer? Thanks.
WarrenG
03-20-2007, 12:57 AM
You can't. Unless you are someone who has a tremendous amount of knowledge in spyware development and removal it is impossible. Thats why there are programs like SD which help people with no experience in spyware to remove threats. As stated in other posts your best bet is either to rely on SD, but if you dont think its cleaning everything, download some more spyware programs.
Even if you think something is spyware, i wouldn't recommend manual removal. Instead, send the file to PC tools or any spyware company and thier threat experts will give you the necessary information.
Support
03-20-2007, 03:08 AM
Hi,
If SD has removed all spyware, but you still think you have spyware on your computer, please send an email to support@pctools.com and explain what the symptoms are. We will then investigate what causes the symptoms.
To explain the symptoms better, a screenshot can be sent as attachment.
Kind Regards,
PC Tools Support
ItwouldRuin
03-20-2007, 02:43 PM
You can't. Unless you are someone who has a tremendous amount of knowledge in spyware development and removal it is impossible. Thats why there are programs like SD which help people with no experience in spyware to remove threats. As stated in other posts your best bet is either to rely on SD, but if you dont think its cleaning everything, download some more spyware programs.
Even if you think something is spyware, i wouldn't recommend manual removal. Instead, send the file to PC tools or any spyware company and thier threat experts will give you the necessary information.
That was the answer I wanted to hear. Thanks. :) :D
But isn't it simple?
I mean, delete the spyware process that is suspecious, remove all registry entries and remove every files and folders.
But as you said, I still don't know what the virus is called.
For an example I had a spyware called like trojan.maran.bp or something, but I can't search for it and it is almost impossible to detect. :(
WarrenG
03-20-2007, 09:52 PM
Happy to hear you got the answer you wanted :D
As you stated, it does sound simple to find the process delete it and its relating registry entries, but that still doesnt mean its completely gone, the threat could create other hidden processes, files, folders, etc and theres no way to be sure unless you use a spyware scanning tool.
Best of luck!
socrfan
03-20-2007, 11:35 PM
Your best protection option is to run two anti-spyware programs on your computer so one will catch what the other might miss and one anti-virus program.
ItwouldRuin
03-21-2007, 07:12 PM
Happy to hear you got the answer you wanted :D
As you stated, it does sound simple to find the process delete it and its relating registry entries, but that still doesnt mean its completely gone, the threat could create other hidden processes, files, folders, etc and theres no way to be sure unless you use a spyware scanning tool.
Best of luck!
Thanks man, I see you have alot of experience and I am sorry if I were rude to you.
Wow, that sounds like a monstervirus or a hypervirus, but you are right, what could you do if you didn't have an Antispyware tool? Nothing, no information about the virus and as you said, I am not a spyware expert but I try to be and I am reading and ****.
So, I am on good way, and with some help, which I already got, I may become very good. :D
Thanks again.
ItwouldRuin
03-21-2007, 07:15 PM
Your best protection option is to run two anti-spyware programs on your computer so one will catch what the other might miss and one anti-virus program.
Yeah, but do you mean that I should run two Antispyware at once, because I don't think that it is recommended, however, I will soon get three or four antispyware programs to be like 80 percent sure I am protected.
Thanks for your answer, I am always learning things from others, so you mean I can run two Antispyware at once? (I know the rules is ONE Antivirus.) ;)
mjq424
03-21-2007, 08:57 PM
Yeah, but do you mean that I should run two Antispyware at once, because I don't think that it is recommended, however, I will soon get three or four antispyware programs to be like 80 percent sure I am protected.
Thanks for your answer, I am always learning things from others, so you mean I can run two Antispyware at once? (I know the rules is ONE Antivirus.) ;)
I would advise against 2 antispyware programs, unless you have LOTS of system resources!
I do have to say, however, that i use Windows Defender as well as SD+AV as WD has some nice system exploration tools. It isnt great for spyware prevention/removal but it keeps me up-to-date on what is going on in my PC!
You can download it here (if you have valid Windows): http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=435bfce7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&displaylang=en
ItwouldRuin
03-22-2007, 09:00 AM
I would advise against 2 antispyware programs, unless you have LOTS of system resources!
I do have to say, however, that i use Windows Defender as well as SD+AV as WD has some nice system exploration tools. It isnt great for spyware prevention/removal but it keeps me up-to-date on what is going on in my PC!
You can download it here (if you have valid Windows): http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=435bfce7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&displaylang=en
And I have to say that my computer isn't so good.
However, I don't think that Antispyware - products requires so much system resources, only AV - programs, and I am am noob, but I still recommend at least two or three AntiSpyware products to be like 70 - 80 percent sure your are protected against Spyware.
But I also heard of Rootkits, what a nasty things, I think they are very hard to get rid of, unless you are a Spyware Expert.
mjq424
03-22-2007, 04:21 PM
And I have to say that my computer isn't so good.
However, I don't think that Antispyware - products requires so much system resources, only AV - programs, and I am am noob, but I still recommend at least two or three AntiSpyware products to be like 70 - 80 percent sure your are protected against Spyware.
But I also heard of Rootkits, what a nasty things, I think they are very hard to get rid of, unless you are a Spyware Expert.
For scanning for spyware i agree that multiple antispyware programs meen better protection...but to have more than 1 with real-time protection will drain system resources. If you want some better protection from rootkits please download Rootkit Revealer from www.sysinternals.com (http://www.sysinternals.com) (bear in mind that rootkit scanning depends on behaviour rather than definitions so legit programs can be rootkits
ItwouldRuin
03-22-2007, 05:30 PM
For scanning for spyware i agree that multiple antispyware programs meen better protection...but to have more than 1 with real-time protection will drain system resources. If you want some better protection from rootkits please download Rootkit Revealer from www.sysinternals.com (http://www.sysinternals.com) (bear in mind that rootkit scanning depends on behaviour rather than definitions so legit programs can be rootkits
Okey, I already know that Real-Time protection is better but I didn't konw it drains so much resources.
I will download the RootKit - program, so I suppose this means that Anti-Spyware programs cannot detect all Rootkits even if you have three of them?
Then I also should get an AntiKeylogger so I also can gain the greatest protection against Keylogger, they are nasty.
But with all this programs, my computer will start crashing sometimes.
mjq424
03-22-2007, 09:58 PM
SD is one of the better antispyware programs as it does detect many rootkits. It also detects pretty much all keyloggers (I believe PC Tools have a patent on their antikeylogger technology).
I would suggest limiting your protection software to a bear minimum with real-time protection (maximum 2 real-time programs) and then use 2 or more extra programs just to scan your computer.
ItwouldRuin
03-23-2007, 09:41 AM
SD is one of the better antispyware programs as it does detect many rootkits. It also detects pretty much all keyloggers (I believe PC Tools have a patent on their antikeylogger technology).
I would suggest limiting your protection software to a bear minimum with real-time protection (maximum 2 real-time programs) and then use 2 or more extra programs just to scan your computer.
Okey, let us start with the Real-Time question.
I think you mean that I'm NOT supposed to scan with real-Time protection - software, and if I am right, then could you tell me why I shouldn't?
And do you mean that I am gaining the best protection if I get Anti-Keylogger and Anti-Rootkits and others ANti-products for harmful software, even if SD is one of the greatest, I know it, because ever site says it is perfect, I still wanna get an Anti-program for almost all harmful spyware, or a program thar are specialized to find like JUST rootkits or JUST keyloggers.
That will maybe be a good idéa. :D
Like the ultimate protection.
mjq424
03-23-2007, 09:50 AM
Hi
Im sorry for the confusion!
My suggestions:
1. Use 1 real-time antispyware program that has integrated antikeylogger and antirootkit protection (I think the best 2 progs are SD and webroot spysweeper)
2. Use 1 or more "on demand" antispyware scanners to pick up any other infections (i.e. lavasoft Ad-aware SE personal, Spybot S&D)
3. I am personally unaware of any specific dedicated antirootkit or antikeylogger programs...these functions usually come bundled with programs like SD
Hope that clears things up!
ItwouldRuin
03-23-2007, 08:23 PM
Hi
Im sorry for the confusion!
My suggestions:
1. Use 1 real-time antispyware program that has integrated antikeylogger and antirootkit protection (I think the best 2 progs are SD and webroot spysweeper)
2. Use 1 or more "on demand" antispyware scanners to pick up any other infections (i.e. lavasoft Ad-aware SE personal, Spybot S&D)
3. I am personally unaware of any specific dedicated antirootkit or antikeylogger programs...these functions usually come bundled with programs like SD
Hope that clears things up!
Don't be sorry, you are trying to help me, and it means alot to me. :)
On the third answer, I think you scare me a little bit. Because I hope you don't mean that these programs are like spyware or adware or another unwanted programs? :o
mjq424
03-23-2007, 08:26 PM
No my 3rd answer means that antikeylogger and antirootkit scanning usually comes as part of an antispyware program like SD (im not sure if webroot spysweeper has it). As far as i am aware, PC Tools are ahead of the game with very good rootkit scanning and (patent pending) keylogger OnGuard
ItwouldRuin
03-24-2007, 12:16 AM
No my 3rd answer means that antikeylogger and antirootkit scanning usually comes as part of an antispyware program like SD (im not sure if webroot spysweeper has it). As far as i am aware, PC Tools are ahead of the game with very good rootkit scanning and (patent pending) keylogger OnGuard
Okey, now I see! Thanks alot. :D
mjq424
03-24-2007, 03:35 PM
Hi
I have actually just found a free dedicated antirootkit scanner from avg (well known antivirus vendor). You can download it from majorgeeks.com: http://www.majorgeeks.com/AVG_Anti-Rootkit_d5249.html
ItwouldRuin
03-25-2007, 01:21 PM
Hi
I have actually just found a free dedicated antirootkit scanner from avg (well known antivirus vendor). You can download it from majorgeeks.com: http://www.majorgeeks.com/AVG_Anti-Rootkit_d5249.html
Okey, thanks for the link, but is Majorgeeks a safe site?
I like programs that are like specialiazed for killing JUST trojans, that means that they are expert on killing trojans, and with that kind of program I think that you will be safer than buying a product that kills all type of malware but isn't good enough. :)
mjq424
03-25-2007, 04:45 PM
Majorgeeks is a safe site (I use McAffee SiteAdvisor and it says the site is green).
Trojans are a mixed infection. They are classified as both a type of virus and spyware. However, antispyware tools are better at removing these types of threats as they can delete the registry keys as well as the files, whereas antivirus just delete the files meaning re-infection is easier.
ItwouldRuin
03-26-2007, 06:18 PM
Majorgeeks is a safe site (I use McAffee SiteAdvisor and it says the site is green).
Trojans are a mixed infection. They are classified as both a type of virus and spyware. However, antispyware tools are better at removing these types of threats as they can delete the registry keys as well as the files, whereas antivirus just delete the files meaning re-infection is easier.
OK, is Mcafee SIteadvisor a good program?
Yeah, you are right, antispyware are better, and it is safer if you have more than one antispyware, but can you run more than ONE antispyware at once when you are searching for Spyware? Thanks.
mjq424
03-26-2007, 06:24 PM
Siteadvisor from McAfee is very good. They have an extremely extensive database of good/bad websites. It adds a little toolbar in your webbrowser which can be green (good site), yellow (potentially bad site), red (bad site) and grey (site not yet tested). They test email subscription to check for spam, they check downloads for viruses/spyware and they use a review community. It also adds little icons next to search results with google and yahoo!. It is available for free with both IE6/IE7 and FF1.5/FF2.
misery
03-27-2007, 08:37 PM
OK, is Mcafee SIteadvisor a good program?
Yeah, you are right, antispyware are better, and it is safer if you have more than one antispyware, but can you run more than ONE antispyware at once when you are searching for Spyware? Thanks.
Majorgeeks safe ? I once picked up spyware there, but the same goes for download.com.
You're at extreme risk for spyware when you try to get 'free' software.
And McAfee's site advisor ? I have never used it myself, but I read somewhere that it was near useless. (Don't blame me for not providing citations).
I myself stick to McAfee's antivirus (version 10), firewall and security center.
I'll never buy McAfee's Total Disaster (='Total Protection') or
McAfee's INsecurity suite.
And I'll be looking for a different antvirus when my current subscription expires.
mjq424
03-27-2007, 08:40 PM
Hi
I have to admit that the free version of siteadvisor doesnt do much in the way of antispyware...but siteadvisor plus has a website blocking capacity using a windows service...it also blocks other web browsers in "protected mode" using a user password (i think it is currently compatible with IE6, IE7, FF1.5 and FF2)
ItwouldRuin
03-28-2007, 05:25 PM
Siteadvisor from McAfee is very good. They have an extremely extensive database of good/bad websites. It adds a little toolbar in your webbrowser which can be green (good site), yellow (potentially bad site), red (bad site) and grey (site not yet tested). They test email subscription to check for spam, they check downloads for viruses/spyware and they use a review community. It also adds little icons next to search results with google and yahoo!. It is available for free with both IE6/IE7 and FF1.5/FF2.
WHoa! Thanks for the information, I think I'm going to download it because it sounds great. And what is the difference between IE6 and IE7? Thanks.
ItwouldRuin
03-28-2007, 05:27 PM
Majorgeeks safe ? I once picked up spyware there, but the same goes for download.com.
You're at extreme risk for spyware when you try to get 'free' software.
And McAfee's site advisor ? I have never used it myself, but I read somewhere that it was near useless. (Don't blame me for not providing citations).
I myself stick to McAfee's antivirus (version 10), firewall and security center.
I'll never buy McAfee's Total Disaster (='Total Protection') or
McAfee's INsecurity suite.
And I'll be looking for a different antvirus when my current subscription expires.
No, I don't think that you are, and you mean that I should download Shareware - programs? They are all bad and you have to pay for them. :mad:
mjq424
03-28-2007, 05:31 PM
Hi
Difference between IE6 and IE7 is that IE7 is supposedly more secure than IE6. It has an inbuilt phishing filter (blocks malicious websites - its not very good at it!). IE7 also has the multi-tabbed web browsing first featured in Opera and Firefox making browsing multiple sites a lot easier.
Hope that helps
ItwouldRuin
03-29-2007, 08:05 AM
Hi
Difference between IE6 and IE7 is that IE7 is supposedly more secure than IE6. It has an inbuilt phishing filter (blocks malicious websites - its not very good at it!). IE7 also has the multi-tabbed web browsing first featured in Opera and Firefox making browsing multiple sites a lot easier.
Hope that helps
Thanks, but why isn't it so good to block web-sites?
mjq424
03-29-2007, 08:09 AM
Hi
Microsoft arent so good at the anti-malware stuff yet...they have only just entered this market so their database of malicious websites is very small. McAfee who have been in the business for many, many, many! years have more experience so their product will be better. Also, some users have noticed a slow down in IE7 browsing due to the "phishing filter" being active
Hope that helps
misery
03-29-2007, 03:02 PM
No, I don't think that you are, and you mean that I should download Shareware - programs? They are all bad and you have to pay for them. :mad:
I'm not sure I understand you. Shareware programs on sites as majorgeeks and download.com can be infected with spyware as well, although the chance that that happens is probably less than with 'real' free programs (of course there are exceptions).
Companies that have you pay for their products (even if they offer free trials) are usually not stupid enough to put spyware in their product.
tom.tdw
03-29-2007, 04:37 PM
I'm not sure I understand you. Shareware programs on sites as majorgeeks and download.com can be infected with spyware as well, although the chance that that happens is probably less than with 'real' free programs (of course there are exceptions).
Companies that have you pay for their products (even if they offer free trials) are usually not stupid enough to put spyware in their product.
shareware is usually ok as if they really wanted you to download something they would label it as free not restricted. it is best to download shareware from that makers website although download.com and cnet are ok
ItwouldRuin
03-29-2007, 05:56 PM
Hi
Microsoft arent so good at the anti-malware stuff yet...they have only just entered this market so their database of malicious websites is very small. McAfee who have been in the business for many, many, many! years have more experience so their product will be better. Also, some users have noticed a slow down in IE7 browsing due to the "phishing filter" being active
Hope that helps
But do you have to activate that "phising filter" and what is it?
And now I know I won't buy an ANti- product from Microsoft.
And how about F-Secure? Or Symantec? Or other anti-malware business?
ItwouldRuin
03-29-2007, 05:58 PM
I'm not sure I understand you. Shareware programs on sites as majorgeeks and download.com can be infected with spyware as well, although the chance that that happens is probably less than with 'real' free programs (of course there are exceptions).
Companies that have you pay for their products (even if they offer free trials) are usually not stupid enough to put spyware in their product.
I thought download.com was a safe site. :mad: :(
mjq424
03-30-2007, 08:35 AM
Hi
download.com is relatively safe. There are ALWAYS risks associated with downloading from sites like this. In my opinion it is safer to download directly from the software companies website.
You can easily disable the phishing filter in IE7 in the tools > options menu.
ItwouldRuin
03-30-2007, 09:11 AM
Hi
download.com is relatively safe. There are ALWAYS risks associated with downloading from sites like this. In my opinion it is safer to download directly from the software companies website.
You can easily disable the phishing filter in IE7 in the tools > options menu.
Ok, what is this phising tool?
And do you know a greater site than Download.com?
mjq424
03-30-2007, 10:08 AM
Hi
When using IE7 there is an icon in the bottom right corner of the page, it "scans" all ages visited by you and uses a list from Microsoft of known phishing sites. You can also report phishing sites.
download.com is safe as long as you scan all incoming files with a reputable anti-malware tool before opening them.
tom.tdw
03-30-2007, 01:25 PM
spyware doctor automatically checks downloads:)
phasing filter checks that a website is what it says it is not a frodulent version
mcafee site adviser is a better alternative
ItwouldRuin
03-30-2007, 10:59 PM
Hi
When using IE7 there is an icon in the bottom right corner of the page, it "scans" all ages visited by you and uses a list from Microsoft of known phishing sites. You can also report phishing sites.
download.com is safe as long as you scan all incoming files with a reputable anti-malware tool before opening them.
OK, I wouldn't care about the phising tool, because I have IE 6.0. :)
However, if I download and search for malware with an anti-product and if it doesn't find any traces of malware, am I safe? 100 %? Thanks.
ItwouldRuin
03-30-2007, 11:01 PM
spyware doctor automatically checks downloads:)
phasing filter checks that a website is what it says it is not a frodulent version
mcafee site adviser is a better alternative
OK then, buy you said Siteadvisor ****ed. :rolleyes:
mjq424
03-31-2007, 09:49 AM
Hi
There is NEVER a 100% guarantee when scanning with an anti-malware tool! New variants of infections are appearing all the time. While anti-malware software is catching up, heuristics (behaviour) do help in detecting these infections.
Also as you are using IE6, you can get the windows live toolbar that comes with phishing filter should you wish to.
mjq424
03-31-2007, 01:40 PM
Hi
I have just had a thought. If you are seriously concerned for the safety of your system, you could perhaps try System Safety Monitor from System Safety Ltd. This program monitors every application running on your pc. It checks what applications open other applications, which programs have internet access. It also monitors the registry. An old version is available free from www.syssafety.com/
misery
03-31-2007, 02:22 PM
I'm not sure I understand you. Shareware programs on sites as majorgeeks and download.com can be infected with spyware as well, although the chance that that happens is probably less than with 'real' free programs (of course there are exceptions).
Companies that have you pay for their products (even if they offer free trials) are usually not stupid enough to put spyware in their product.
Well, I know of one exception ... MICROSOFT !
Update KB905474 (supposedly because Microsoft has listened to the public, and to serve the public well they need to know the IP address of the Windows users, data regarding their harddrive etc., I'm not buying Microsoft's story) And just WGA notifications (somewhat different from validation) in general, just spyware.
ItwouldRuin
04-19-2007, 06:02 PM
Hi
There is NEVER a 100% guarantee when scanning with an anti-malware tool! New variants of infections are appearing all the time. While anti-malware software is catching up, heuristics (behaviour) do help in detecting these infections.
Also as you are using IE6, you can get the windows live toolbar that comes with phishing filter should you wish to.
Do you only mean an ANti-Malware tool or do you also mean anti-spwyare and anti-virus, if not, do you mean that re-format is the only way to remove malware, if possible?
ItwouldRuin
04-19-2007, 06:03 PM
Hi
I have just had a thought. If you are seriously concerned for the safety of your system, you could perhaps try System Safety Monitor from System Safety Ltd. This program monitors every application running on your pc. It checks what applications open other applications, which programs have internet access. It also monitors the registry. An old version is available free from www.syssafety.com/
Is this good, can it prevent spyware getting installed? THanks.
mjq424
04-19-2007, 06:35 PM
Hi
It is true of ALL antimalware/antispyware/antivirus. The best way to defend yourself is to use a multilayered defense.
SSM is pretty good. The free version has its limitations but is definitely very useful! If you have the money i highly suggest paying for the full version as it has many extra benefits. The way in which it protects you is by monitoring all applications, for instance, if a malicious trojan injects a DLL into a trusted program on your computer, SSM will detect the change in program and ask you to confirm the actions of that application, including any installations and changes made to your system. It also monitors IE and to an extent your registry. The only disadvantage is the number of popup windows it provides prompting you for action! (it literally asks you for EVERY SINGLE application you use)
Hope that helps
ItwouldRuin
04-20-2007, 02:49 PM
Hi
It is true of ALL antimalware/antispyware/antivirus. The best way to defend yourself is to use a multilayered defense.
SSM is pretty good. The free version has its limitations but is definitely very useful! If you have the money i highly suggest paying for the full version as it has many extra benefits. The way in which it protects you is by monitoring all applications, for instance, if a malicious trojan injects a DLL into a trusted program on your computer, SSM will detect the change in program and ask you to confirm the actions of that application, including any installations and changes made to your system. It also monitors IE and to an extent your registry. The only disadvantage is the number of popup windows it provides prompting you for action! (it literally asks you for EVERY SINGLE application you use)
Hope that helps
OK, I thought that with 3-4 Antispyware, one firewall and with one ANtivirus, I thought I would be pretty safe, maybe 70 - 80 - 90 %, but I had wrong. :(
And what do you mean with multilayered defense, and that program you are talking about, I think that it is British, I'm from Sweden... THANKS.
mjq424
04-20-2007, 02:55 PM
Hi
From what you say your protection sounds fine. Just one quick question...Are all 3-4 antispyware programs real-time? Or do you use 1 real-time and 2-3 "on-demand"?
What I mean about multi-layered defense is just what you are doing...have multiple scanners so that things missed by one program will (hopefully) be picked up by another :)
Yes this is true, SSM is in english, Im not sure if they have a Swedish language library, I know they have a long list of languages it can use. Unfortunately from what I know they only have English, Dutch, Russian and Chinese help files. You can always join their forum and ask about a Swedish language system?
Hope that helps
tom.tdw
04-20-2007, 04:34 PM
i just have spyware doctor with antivirus, pctools personal firewall and hijack this installed but my computer is completely safe
overall this costs me less than £30 a year
as well as what i have installed i also use online scanners from panda, one care and othersHi
From what you say your protection sounds fine. Just one quick question...Are all 3-4 antispyware programs real-time? Or do you use 1 real-time and 2-3 "on-demand"?
What I mean about multi-layered defense is just what you are doing...have multiple scanners so that things missed by one program will (hopefully) be picked up by another :)
Yes this is true, SSM is in english, Im not sure if they have a Swedish language library, I know they have a long list of languages it can use. Unfortunately from what I know they only have English, Dutch, Russian and Chinese help files. You can always join their forum and ask about a Swedish language system?
Hope that helps
ItwouldRuin
04-20-2007, 07:56 PM
Hi
From what you say your protection sounds fine. Just one quick question...Are all 3-4 antispyware programs real-time? Or do you use 1 real-time and 2-3 "on-demand"?
What I mean about multi-layered defense is just what you are doing...have multiple scanners so that things missed by one program will (hopefully) be picked up by another :)
Yes this is true, SSM is in english, Im not sure if they have a Swedish language library, I know they have a long list of languages it can use. Unfortunately from what I know they only have English, Dutch, Russian and Chinese help files. You can always join their forum and ask about a Swedish language system?
Hope that helps
I have heard that it isn't a good idéa to use more than 1 Real-time, I don't know why but I'll stick with it, so 1 Real-time and three "On-demand".
And with Multiple programs, does multiple mean 2,3 or even 4?
Thanks.
ItwouldRuin
04-20-2007, 07:57 PM
i just have spyware doctor with antivirus, pctools personal firewall and hijack this installed but my computer is completely safe
overall this costs me less than £30 a year
as well as what i have installed i also use online scanners from panda, one care and others
Well, don't be pretty sure you are completely safe, because more than 90 % of all PCs in the world are infected with spyware. :D
tom.tdw
04-20-2007, 07:59 PM
the main problem is they really gobble up resources
if you use online scanners you only need one installedI have heard that it isn't a good idéa to use more than 1 Real-time, I don't know why but I'll stick with it, so 1 Real-time and three "On-demand".
And with Multiple programs, does multiple mean 2,3 or even 4?
Thanks.
ItwouldRuin
04-20-2007, 11:15 PM
the main problem is they really gobble up resources
if you use online scanners you only need one installed
DO you mean the Real-time?
I will use Online scanners and 4 antispyware. ;)
mjq424
04-21-2007, 07:47 AM
Hi
This is correct. Real-time scanners do gobble resources. However it is necessary. Online scanners are definitely an excellent addition to your protection :)
tom.tdw
04-21-2007, 08:28 AM
better safe than sorry.
if you use spyware doctor and check your hijack this log regally you should be safe.
i only have one real time (spyware doctor) and one on demand (hijackthis) but i regually use online scanners and keep an uptodate backup.
any more would affect performance unacceptably. DO you mean the Real-time?
I will use Online scanners and 4 antispyware. ;)
ItwouldRuin
04-21-2007, 11:10 AM
Hi
This is correct. Real-time scanners do gobble resources. However it is necessary. Online scanners are definitely an excellent addition to your protection :)
And when you wrote about four antispyware, should I search with all antispyware at once( I don't think so because they can like affect eachother) or should I first search with one, and when it is finished with the other... and then with the third and then with the fourth? Thanks. ;)
ItwouldRuin
04-21-2007, 11:11 AM
better safe than sorry.
if you use spyware doctor and check your hijack this log regally you should be safe.
i only have one real time (spyware doctor) and one on demand (hijackthis) but i regually use online scanners and keep an uptodate backup.
any more would affect performance unacceptably.
Yeah, you are maybe right, but if you have four, you WILL be safer, and I will maybe get 2-4 antivirus...
tom.tdw
04-21-2007, 07:09 PM
multiple anti spyspywares is one thing but multiple antivirus is another
if you run more than one you will have conflicts and bsod:(
if you run more than one your computer will be less stable so not that stable (malware isn't the worst thing that can happen to your pc)Yeah, you are maybe right, but if you have four, you WILL be safer, and I will maybe get 2-4 antivirus...
mjq424
04-21-2007, 07:41 PM
Hi
I would suggest using online AV scanners (i.e. FREE from Kaspersky, Symantec, etc) Definitely DO NOT use more than 1 realtime AV program!!! If you want a 2nd opinion on your realtime AV scanner. For antispyware, use 1 realtime and then 2-3 as and when, for instance, I use Adaware as an "on-demand" scanner but I only scan when the definitions are updated.
tom.tdw
04-21-2007, 09:06 PM
non-realtime antiviruses can still cause conflicts
i suggest you hijackthis as your only ondemand scanner as if you can read the logs you get a near 100% detection rate
also instead of getting paranoid i maintain my backups so persistently that all i would lose if i needed to format is the time it takes;) Hi
I would suggest using online AV scanners (i.e. FREE from Kaspersky, Symantec, etc) Definitely DO NOT use more than 1 realtime AV program!!! If you want a 2nd opinion on your realtime AV scanner. For antispyware, use 1 realtime and then 2-3 as and when, for instance, I use Adaware as an "on-demand" scanner but I only scan when the definitions are updated.
mjq424
04-21-2007, 09:11 PM
Lol. Good call on the backups. I have previously tried having non-realtime AV (I used BitDefender version 8 FREE alongside SD+AV, only result was a slowdown in system performance)
ItwouldRuin
04-22-2007, 12:58 AM
multiple anti spyspywares is one thing but multiple antivirus is another
if you run more than one you will have conflicts and bsod:(
if you run more than one your computer will be less stable so not that stable (malware isn't the worst thing that can happen to your pc)
What do you mean, what's the worst? Thanks.
ItwouldRuin
04-22-2007, 01:00 AM
Hi
I would suggest using online AV scanners (i.e. FREE from Kaspersky, Symantec, etc) Definitely DO NOT use more than 1 realtime AV program!!! If you want a 2nd opinion on your realtime AV scanner. For antispyware, use 1 realtime and then 2-3 as and when, for instance, I use Adaware as an "on-demand" scanner but I only scan when the definitions are updated.
OK, then I will have 1 AV and Online scanners, but can they all find viruses or is there a virus thta is extremely hard to delete, I've heard of Vundo. Scary...
And another thing, can you like recommend the greatest malware-help sites on the Internet. Thanks.:)
tom.tdw
04-22-2007, 10:31 AM
What do you mean, what's the worst? Thanks.i would say dropping it out of a window:rolleyes:, corrupting the bios or changing the dvd format so many times that it will only read African dvds.
more realistically sparking av conflicts that bring down the os
OK, then I will have 1 AV and Online scanners, but can they all find viruses or is there a virus thta is extremely hard to delete, I've heard of Vundo. Scary...
And another thing, can you like recommend the greatest malware-help sites on the Internet. Thanks.:)
bleeping computer is good
online scanners are good but if you can use hijackthis it should find absolutely every thing
also when people talk about all the antispyware they use they often forget a firewall (i recommend pctools free one) which would do much more good
Reodor
04-22-2007, 10:52 AM
OK, then I will have 1 AV and Online scanners, but can they all find viruses or is there a virus thta is extremely hard to delete, I've heard of Vundo. Scary...
And another thing, can you like recommend the greatest malware-help sites on the Internet. Thanks.:)
I think below link will take You to a site that has the most answers of what You may be looking for, or so many answers that You really get confused!
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/
ItwouldRuin
04-22-2007, 03:09 PM
i would say dropping it out of a window:rolleyes:, corrupting the bios or changing the dvd format so many times that it will only read African dvds.
more realistically sparking av conflicts that bring down the os
bleeping computer is good
online scanners are good but if you can use hijackthis it should find absolutely every thing
also when people talk about all the antispyware they use they often forget a firewall (i recommend pctools free one) which would do much more good
Well, there are silly people in the world that are surfing without firewall, ANTIspyware and AV won't help a **** when we talk about hackers. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
And I wouldn't be so stupid to throw my computer outside the window or to corrupt the BIOS, I don't even know how to do it, but I think the Chernobyl Virus knows, yeah, it's true, the most destructing virus of all time, CIH.
And with "africans DVD-fromat", I didn't get it, how can an AV-scanner do things like that? :confused:
Well, I know HijackThis, and I know it's good. :) But it still can't find everything.
And when we talk about malware-help, I thought I wrote site(s). :D Thanks.
ItwouldRuin
04-22-2007, 03:10 PM
I think below link will take You to a site that has the most answers of what You may be looking for, or so many answers that You really get confused!
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/
Thanks pal, I appreciate it! :D
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