Still Not Working On Vista

[crtdude]

All right, I've had enough. Basic support for Vista apparently means you can install it and run it. That's about as far as it goes. Bluescreens each time I get to a deep scan.

You've had quite a long time to get this Vista operable. You should pull the statement that this had basic Vista support, it has not completed a scan once on 2 different machines with various settings applied.

Will we be at Vista SP2 by the time you guys get this working? Maybe it's time to switch products, between this and Spyware Doctor's Vista headaches it's not worth the BS any longer.

[katie]

RM should be compaitable with Vista. Im currently running RM on Vista and all seems well. Looks like others are not having problems with this as well, since the release of 6.0.0.780. See http://www.pctools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45421.

Something might be conflicting with RM and another one of your software. What you can do is get the BSOD info and attach the info to this forum. Pctools may be able to help you.

I took the memory dump instructions from another thread:

1. Select [My Computer], right click, and select 'Properties'.
2. Select [Advanced] tab.
3. Click on [Settings] button under 'Startup and Recovery'
4. Select 'Kernel memory dump' in drop-down list under 'Write debugging information' section.
5. The memory dump file will be saved in the location specified in 'Dump file' box under 'Write debugging information' section. (It's usually C:\Windows\Memory.dmp) choose 'Kernel memory dump'.

kt

[5thduke]

well i can tell you it dosent work on ultimate 64 no deep scan, repairs 20 out of 100 errors,also noticed how they quickly changed from vista support to basic support the day after i bought the software

[AChen]

At the moment, Registry Mechanic is supported by Windows Vista 32 bit, however it is not supported by the Vista 64 bit. We are currently considering the 64 bit platform and I can not provide a time frame for this. If I do receive more info on this, I will let you know.

[looney2ns]

There are many many software packages that will not currently run on 64bit Vista. It's a tough cookie to crack and very limited market share.

[MrFreeze]

There are many many software packages that will not currently run on 64bit Vista. It's a tough cookie to crack and very limited market share.

I'm glad that when I purchased my new computer it came with the Windows Home Basic 32bit Vista, It's taken me a little while to get a few things working right with this computer but I can see from this post and "MANY" that I get via RSS feeds that the 64bit Vista was a mistake at this point in time by microsoft.

:eek:

[socrfan]

I'm glad that when I purchased my new computer it came with the Windows Home Basic 32bit Vista, It's taken me a little while to get a few things working right with this computer but I can see from this post and "MANY" that I get via RSS feeds that the 64bit Vista was a mistake at this point in time by microsoft.

:eek:

64 bit Vista (at least as far as I know) is only an option offered to Vista users. Microsoft offers a 64 bit upgrade disk if you want to try it out but the lack of support for it isn't so much Microsoft's fault as it is many companies who write software. Microsoft was saying, months ago, that they had laid out a 64 bit platform but most developers weren't writing anything to use on it. Catch 22. If users don't run 64 then companies don't see it being worthwhile to write for it but if there's no software available then users don't want to run it.

[Jupiter]

At the moment, Registry Mechanic is supported by Windows Vista 32 bit, however it is not supported by the Vista 64 bit. We are currently considering the 64 bit platform and I can not provide a time frame for this. If I do receive more info on this, I will let you know.

I have just picked up on this thread following problems with a new laptop with Vista Home Premium installed (64bit?). 88 problems unsolved and no auto restore. Does this mean RM is useless with my new laptop?

[Chippa]

Regarding the 88 problems, you may find it interesting to read this: http://www.pctools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45775&highlight=temp. It may also be related to the 64 bit issue. Since RM is not supported with the 64 bit Vista, you may be able to run the software, but you may not get it to fully function as it should. Maybe it does. It looks like you may have to wait for the 64 bit version. Alot of other software has the same issues. Ive come across many threads similar to this where many people are having problems with all sorts with Vista 64 bit, the reason companies not yet making it compaitable with the 64 bit.

Cheers,
Chippa

[allibear]

Vista is the 'stepping stone' towards universal 64 bit computing. I reckon by the time we get half way through the life cycle of Vista most people will upgrade their 32 bit versions to 64 bit, (hardware allowing). By the time we get to the next operating system 64 bit will be the mainstream and it is predicted that there will no longer be 32 bit options. 32 bit processors are also being phased out and gardually being replaced with 64 bit.

Like any stepping stone the first year will be the most difficult for compatibilty, in a year or so we will start seeing 64 bit applications pop up everywhere. It's all a vicious circle of 'follow my leader' at the moment. For most users adopting Vista at this stage, 32 bit is the easiest option, if you want to make the most of current applications, but for the enthusiasts getting involved with the 64 bit from an early stage is an exciting challenge but with compromises at this stage.

For me, well it's always the easy option, 32 bit for the time being!:D

Here's a couple of links of bedtime reading, for anyone interested in the subject. There are many articles out there on the debate of 32 bit V's 64 bit, if you want to do a bit of 'googling' ;)

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_ff_x64.asp

http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/5709

[MrFreeze]

64 bit Vista (at least as far as I know) is only an option offered to Vista users. Microsoft offers a 64 bit upgrade disk if you want to try it out but the lack of support for it isn't so much Microsoft's fault as it is many companies who write software. Microsoft was saying, months ago, that they had laid out a 64 bit platform but most developers weren't writing anything to use on it. Catch 22. If users don't run 64 then companies don't see it being worthwhile to write for it but if there's no software available then users don't want to run it.

The Vista Home Basic that I am running is running 32 bit I checked and it tells me in the system information. That's not to say they all are I'm just saying that's what mine is running. I do wan't to upgrade my Vista to the Ultimate sometime, just not right now though. I've had problems with several programs that say they are 100% Vista compat. with my basic Vista but they aren't. I can tell you this though, Registry Mechanic since I got the latest update has worked great for me.

Good luck

[socrfan]

I gave Vista 64 a try and ended up going back to 32 bit. There just wasn't enough support for it and I wasn't seeing any increase in performance. I've been running Vista Home Premium (don't see any point in spending a bundle on Ultimate for features most home users won't need) and Registry Mechanic has been working perfectly.

[MrFreeze]

I gave Vista 64 a try and ended up going back to 32 bit. There just wasn't enough support for it and I wasn't seeing any increase in performance. I've been running Vista Home Premium (don't see any point in spending a bundle on Ultimate for features most home users won't need) and Registry Mechanic has been working perfectly.

I'm sure Vista 64 will be right soon in the future but it doesn't do anybody any good right now without everybody else using it. It's frustrating I know because I remember when operating systems went from 8 to 16 and 16 to 32.

I can tell you one thing I figured out a program I was trying to run "It is a NON-PCTOOLS PRG." and wouldn't recommend doing this to anyone, but it said it was 100% Vista compat. . Well I tried everything, then I figured out I had to turn off the UAC-User Account Control for it to work, what was strange is if you turn that off when you restart your computer normally it will give you the security UAC turned off warning and the red x at the bottom right of the screen, but with this program after I turned it off and restarted "The program worked perfect" and I didn't get the red x warning. I'm glad this prg. I am talking about worked like that because I hate UAC!

Good luck!

[allibear]

I'm sure Vista 64 will be right soon in the future but it doesn't do anybody any good right now without everybody else using it. It's frustrating I know because I remember when operating systems went from 8 to 16 and 16 to 32.

I can tell you one thing I figured out a program I was trying to run "It is a NON-PCTOOLS PRG." and wouldn't recommend doing this to anyone, but it said it was 100% Vista compat. . Well I tried everything, then I figured out I had to turn off the UAC-User Account Control for it to work, what was strange is if you turn that off when you restart your computer normally it will give you the security UAC turned off warning and the red x at the bottom right of the screen, but with this program after I turned it off and restarted "The program worked perfect" and I didn't get the red x warning. I'm glad this prg. I am talking about worked like that because I hate UAC!

Good luck!

I would personaly be a bit concerned about a program that wouldn't work until you turned off UAC. If this needs to be turned off to make any program work then that program is not Vista compatible or designed for Vista.

I know people have different views on UAC and some find it a nuisance, but if you turn it off you are basically returning your operating system security levels back to where you where with it on XP.

UAC can prevent software being installed on your PC without your knowledge or harm being done to your system by a virus or malware that has got through other defences. When you start looking into the areas that require 'elevated privileges', like the Windows Prefetch Folder you start to understand the 'methods in its madness'.

I have no doubt that in time though the malware writers and hackers will find a way to get around it and we will start seeing those 'patches' role out in the Microsoft updates!

But why turn off a valuable layer of protection for your system?

A link of 'Bedtime Reading' if you are interseted.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa906021.aspx

[MrFreeze]

I would personaly be a bit concerned about a program that wouldn't work until you turned off UAC. If this needs to be turned off to make any program work then that program is not Vista compatible or designed for Vista.

I know people have different views on UAC and some find it a nuisance, but if you turn it off you are basically returning your operating system security levels back to where you where with it on XP.

UAC can prevent software being installed on your PC without your knowledge or harm being done to your system by a virus or malware that has got through other defences. When you start looking into the areas that require 'elevated privileges', like the Windows Prefetch Folder you start to understand the 'methods in its madness'.

I have no doubt that in time though the malware writers and hackers will find a way to get around it and we will start seeing those 'patches' role out in the Microsoft updates!

But why turn off a valuable layer of protection for your system?

A link of 'Bedtime Reading' if you are interseted.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa906021.aspx

Normally I would be concerned but this program I am talking about is very reputable. Thanks for the information. I know about UAC and the benifits but I have other software to handle the very same type of protection UAC gives.

[allibear]

Normally I would be concerned but this program I am talking about is very reputable. Thanks for the information. I know about UAC and the benifits but I have other software to handle the very same type of protection UAC gives.

I thought I would use what Vista had to offer (security wise), for a while, out of curiousity more than anything, to see if it really is 'more secure'. The pop-ups from UAC don't annoy me any more, though they drove me a bit bonker's for the first week or so.

Am I tempting fate LOL :D

[MrFreeze]

I thought I would use what Vista had to offer (security wise), for a while, out of curiousity more than anything, to see if it really is 'more secure'. The pop-ups from UAC don't annoy me any more, though they drove me a bit bonker's for the first week or so.

Am I tempting fate LOL :D

I tried the same thing, are you using "Windows Live One Care?".

I know this is called different things on other software prgs. but check your computer for a VIRUS called "MAXIMUS" with other prgs than Windows Live One Care. WLOC did not pick it up I found it using other software and I'm glad I did. Just thought I would mention that because you were kind enough to post a message to try and help me and others. I found the "Maximus" virus on a program called "PLAYNOW". I hated finding it because on my old XP computer I liked playing a lot of games from that game prg. "But then again I always had problems with my computer the old XP computer when I had that prg.", now I run Vista 32 Home Basic and have a new computer and it want let me run it because of that Virus and my protection that I am using now. That's cool though, if it's a Virus I don't need it! Just thought I would mention that incase you or anyone uses that program.

I am going with PCTOOLS ONLY Protection whenever my subscription for my software that I am using now runs out because I know it's the best! And I am not saying that to be nice on this board. I am just telling you my own experiences with PCTOOLS. This is one of the "RARE" companies that provide a forum for people to get help from Admins and other people. I can't praise PCTOOLS Enough for that because the software that I am using right now "Which I want name because it just wouldn't be right" doesn't have one and it's a pain in the butt to get any kinda info. but I use it because I have a pre-paid subscription and it's ok for now.

Sorry such a long post I'm just trying to explain a few things as to what I am doing and why.

[allibear]

Hi Mr Freeze,

That's interesting information on not being allowed to run the 'Playnow' program. It's always the 'fun' things we use our PC's for that seem to be the highest risk when it comes to malicious intent.

No, I haven't gone down the route of 'One Care'. Whatever was provided within the operating system was one thing, what Microsoft expected you to pay for was another! Came across this recently, opps Microsoft,

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/05/onecare_fails_av_test/

I had a licence for Kaspersky AV before I upgraded to Vista, and luckily they had a Vista Version out at the the time I upgraded. I'm happy with that, mainly because of it's light 'footprint'. I also use SD4 on Vista. (Seems to be some compatibility issues with SD5 and KAV at the moment, so I am sticking with SD4 for a bit longer). And I use Registry Mechanic, which has never caused me any problems, (have had a disaster with another registry cleaner in the past), and all the other 'housecleaning PC chores, defrag, chkdsk, etc I am just happy to run myself as and when.

I guess my main 'woobler' is using the Vista Firewall. I have never used windows own on XP. I have a friend who works in IT who has tightened up the 'outbound' security on it, with some rules. I have to admit creating Firewall rules is like learning a second language to me, I wouldn't have a clue.

I am also trying IE7 (Protected Mode on), again I have tweaked up a few of the settings. I used Firefox on XP, but as I have upgraded to Office 2007, the integration of 'One Note' with IE7 is really handy for gathering notes from various web sites if you are researching anything.

So far I have not even had a tracking cookie turn up on a scan. I've never really had major problems with malicious stuff even on XP, but the odd thing would turn up occasionlly.

Well lets not 'count our chickens before they hatch'.:D

Hope your gaming fun hasn't been spoiled to much. I'm not great with computer games, (no co-ordination), but I have to confess, I am quite getting into 'Chess Titans' that came with Vista Home Premium LOL. (Don't know whether you got that one in the Basic version).

Cheers allibear. :)