64 bit Vista

[FXi]

Hi there

Just wondering if this is on the soon to be hoped for list?

Ty :)

[AChen]

Hi FXi,

At the moment I cannot provide a timeframe of when Spyware Doctor will be supported with 64bit Vista. If I do receive any info regarding this, I will let you know.

[FXi]

Am using this on several of my XP machines, so I am still hoping for a Vista 64 compatible version, when possible.

Thank you :)

[CANAVAR61]

HI,
I have Vista with X64 i need spydocter but it is X32 now
(I need Spydocter X64)

TNX:)

[bambam_turkey]

SPYWAREDOCTOR VİSTA X64 FİX PLEASE !!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

THANKS:)

[mjq424]

Hi All
Currently Spyware Doctor is not compatible with any 64bit environment. I would advise reverting to 32bit.

[bambam_turkey]

ZoneAlarm Antispyware 7 thank you :D :D :D price (12$);)

[sonicm]

My version of Spyware doctor version: 4.0.0.2621 works fine under Vista x64 no problems at all, looking forward to version 5 working though don't understand how 4 ok but 5 isnt?

[vecchio]

there is no comparison among 2 versions.sd5 has another structure completely different from the previous version .for nowsd5 it works only in vista 32 bit .possibly pctools will release a vista 64 bit compatible version in the future
hope it helps

[eskimosound]

Hi All
Currently Spyware Doctor is not compatible with any 64bit environment. I would advise reverting to 32bit.

Thats' crazy, reverting back to 64bit just to install spyware doctor.
Terrible advice.
Thats like saying sell your porshe and buy a mini metro because the tyes are cheaper!
Stay with what you've got, stay off the bad sites and wait for PCTools to sort their stall out!

[sonicm]

Thats' crazy, reverting back to 64bit just to install spyware doctor.
Terrible advice.
Thats like saying sell your porshe and buy a mini metro because the tyes are cheaper!
Stay with what you've got, stay off the bad sites and wait for PCTools to sort their stall out!

I have to second this advice.

[zoofbar]

What sort of advice is rollback to x32 because your product is behind the times. PCtools you really need to pick the ball and run with it, because many now are using x64 OS considering that the majority of CPU's now support this. If MOST games run in x64.. why doesn't your software perform?

Is there going to be an x64 version? When?

because i am sure the competition out there will be more than happy to take that market share.

[Myrm]

Sorry to jump on the band-wagon here, but I too wish to voice my surprise that somebody has advised rolling back to 32-bit from 64-bit. Poor advice there. Reminds me of the Concorde saga: we used to be able to fly commercial passengers from London to New York in 3-4 hours using a supersonic aircraft, but now that Concorde has been retired the airline industry has taken a step backward by not replacing her with a equal or better aircraft. :(

[socrfan]

Thats' crazy, reverting back to 64bit just to install spyware doctor.
Terrible advice.
Thats like saying sell your porshe and buy a mini metro because the tyes are cheaper!
Stay with what you've got, stay off the bad sites and wait for PCTools to sort their stall out!


Fact is what little, if any, performance increase you are seeing with 64 is so small you wouldn't even notice it. I'll stick with 32. 64 isn't worth the hastle at this point.

[Support]

Guys I have worked on both 64 bit winds and 32 bit windows but really telling, by my personal experience there not much noticable difference between the two. For me they just work fine. The best benifit is vast memory sypport. So if you are running memory intensive programs it will help.

check the link out....
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/facts/top10.mspx

[zoofbar]

yes and there is no difference between a lada and a ferrari except for the obvious.. Whilst one can read many articles on the differences of x32 to x64 operating systems.. the fact is plain that x64 whilst slight can give some benefits to users... 95% of most CPU's have 64bit abilities.. why not use it? ....however that is not the point. It is the consumers right to choose, as would be if they wish to continue to use your product.

Perhaps instead of trying to persuade others in their operating systems of choice it would be better to perhaps start supporting x64. Please understand there are alternatives to your product.

[Myrm]

...Perhaps instead of trying to persuade others in their operating systems of choice it would be better to perhaps start supporting x64. Please understand there are alternatives to your product.

I currently have 32-bit Vista on my pc and laptop but have just ordered a Vista 64-bit disk to install on my pc, mainly because of the 32-bit RAM limits; I have 1GB of RAM on my pc standing idle, whereas the 64-bit version will allow me to use all 4 GB.

I think zoofbar made a very good point. I do not understand the differences between 32-bit and 64-bit OS's but it does seem to me that many software manufacturers simply cannot be bothered to work on upgrading their products to be compatible with 64-bit. It's almost as if they are trying to force us to stay with 32-bit instead of progressing to 64-bit by not making their products compatible. Seems a shame. I can see that one day, perhaps with the next Windows incarnation, that 64-bit will be the default and 32-bit phased out.

[eskimosound]

You know whats really weird, 64bit is old technology. It's been knocking around for a few years. Most of the AMD CPU's are 64bit but are packaged with 32bit software on the highstreet.
I don't know why this is but it is.
So come on guys pull your finger out...Microsoft Surface is just around the corner so is Quadcore.
You are at least 3 years behind!!!!!

[socrfan]

I currently have 32-bit Vista on my pc and laptop but have just ordered a Vista 64-bit disk to install on my pc, mainly because of the 32-bit RAM limits; I have 1GB of RAM on my pc standing idle, whereas the 64-bit version will allow me to use all 4 GB.

I think zoofbar made a very good point. I do not understand the differences between 32-bit and 64-bit OS's but it does seem to me that many software manufacturers simply cannot be bothered to work on upgrading their products to be compatible with 64-bit. It's almost as if they are trying to force us to stay with 32-bit instead of progressing to 64-bit by not making their products compatible. Seems a shame. I can see that one day, perhaps with the next Windows incarnation, that 64-bit will be the default and 32-bit phased out.

They "can't be bothered" because very few people have or even care about 64 bit computing. It costs a bundle to develope software and if you aren't going to see enough sales to cover it you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the problem. The great majority of users don't give a rat's rump about 64 and are happy with what they've got so it's going to be a while before you see much software to make use of what little advantage it has to offer. 64 bit is more hype than substance. I know, I tried it. :rolleyes:

[Myrm]

They "can't be bothered" because very few people have or even care about 64 bit computing...

I'm glad you don't work for me, you not the sort of employee we are looking for. Look to the future, not just to what people are using now, but to what people will be using. Good job that attitude didn't survive when each of the Windows incarnations were released.

[socrfan]

It has nothing to do with attitude. It's all about facts. I have friends who are hard core gamers who push their computers to the limit and they have no interest in 64 bit. If they don't then why would the average user, the biggest group of users out there, who does little more than surf the web or send e-mails care about it?? Does your "company" invest in products or services that won't sell enough to show a profit over investment? 64 will be the standard in time but that time is not now.

[Myrm]

It has nothing to do with attitude. It's all about facts. I have friends who are hard core gamers who push their computers to the limit and they have no interest in 64 bit. If they don't then why would the average user, the biggest group of users out there, who does little more than surf the web or send e-mails care about it?? Does your "company" invest in products or services that won't sell enough to show a profit over investment? 64 will be the standard in time but that time is not now.

You don't by any chance still use Windows 95, do you? ;)

[eskimosound]

You don't by any chance still use Windows 95, do you? ;)

He should do if that's what he thinks about 64bit....asw I said before its old hat 3 years old they will move onto something much better very soon, socket F, Microsoft Surface...etc
There is no time to just settle on 32bit, so very sad........

[Myrm]

What is Microsoft surface?

[zoofbar]

It has nothing to do with attitude. It's all about facts. I have friends who are hard core gamers who push their computers to the limit and they have no interest in 64 bit. .

Well if you have a 64bit processor which if a gamer you will most likely own.. then the fact is your friends are not pushing the PC to its limit in a 32bit environment. Considering also that most games are GPU dependent more and more so than the CPU to produce the fantastic eye candy etc.. and both Nvidia and ATI produce 64 bit drivers...hmmm?? Also being an avid gamer I can vouch that my experience when running a 32 bit game in WinXP and compared to running that very same game Winx64 is that the x64 experience yielded better performance.. slight increase but it was still there.

Still i come back to the true FACTS... it is not for anyone to dictate what bit version of an OS one should or shouldnt be using.. your choice to use 32bit OS. Also take alook at the other alternate OS.. Unix, linux and OSx (yah i know its apple, but they still use mostly the same components as PC's).. are 64bit.

Its dogmatic attitudes which is holding back the next step in operating evolution.. bit like cars really.. if companies didnt take to the next level we all still be driving in 2 cylinder vehicles.

Anyway.. lets let PCtools answer this question....


Are you going to EVER bring out a 64bit version?? :confused:

[AChen]

Hi All,

At this point, I cannot comment on the timeframe for a compatible 64bit version of SD, but what I can tell you is that the developers are working on this and once I receive any updates, I will let you know.

[socrfan]

Well if you have a 64bit processor which if a gamer you will most likely own.. then the fact is your friends are not pushing the PC to its limit in a 32bit environment. Considering also that most games are GPU dependent more and more so than the CPU to produce the fantastic eye candy etc.. and both Nvidia and ATI produce 64 bit drivers...hmmm?? Also being an avid gamer I can vouch that my experience when running a 32 bit game in WinXP and compared to running that very same game Winx64 is that the x64 experience yielded better performance.. slight increase but it was still there.

Yeah, I'm running a Core 2 Extreme. I also tried Vista 64 with the ATI 64 bit drivers. After running the benchmarks the difference was so slight that it wasn't worth the present hastle one goes through to get programs to work or find 64 bit versions and drivers. As I said most people just don't care or don't even know 64 bit from the planet Neptune so until they do the big "upgrade" isn't going to happen. A whole lot of companies simply aren't going to write software that isn't going to sell. It will happen but for now it's a catch 22 situation, like it or not. :)

[zoofbar]

I just like to point out that many vista drivers currently available are not refined for performance but more for stability (kinda) and really aren't there yet .. the joys of a new OS hehe

I don't put much into benchmarks (RT comparison testing is proven a better means/method than many non-commercial benchmark tests) and seeing as so slight which i can agree then why not use either or? as 64bit OS is more than capable of running 32bit applications.. always remeber there is still an OS to function, AV software etc under that very game, programme etc.. that needs to run, and 64bit does do this way more efficiently. If you use under 4gb or over 4gb memory.. 64bit is far superior in handling memory management and thread routines than 32bit (many benchmarks don't reflect this very well eg. take dual core CPU's when they first hit the market)

But i will agree to setup 64bit does require a degree of aptitude in computing than the common user especially when it comes to drivers and software over its 32bit cousin, with my experience in IT this isn't an issue or an undertaking of difficulty ... but still .. the debate between 32bit and 64bit can go on forever.. its basically support or not to support by PCtools and the choice of the consumer to either renew or not to renew Spyware Doc to meet their needs.

so to end my involvement in this thread, I will wait and see, come renewal i will make my decision to support this company or not and it will be based upon their support of an 64bit OS.

By the way, i have a number of 64bit applications that i need to use... not games, like it or not <wink>

[FXi]

Hi All,

At this point, I cannot comment on the timeframe for a compatible 64bit version of SD, but what I can tell you is that the developers are working on this and once I receive any updates, I will let you know.

Thank you for the update. I'll be looking forward to being back to using SD.

:)

[eskimosound]

What is Microsoft surface?

This is fantastic...release date Dec 2007
Microsoft Surface
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

Oh and if PCTools doesnt hurry up Microsoft will have brought in Windows Vienna!!!!
Windows Vienna Release Date 2009
http://www.windowsvienna.com/


So please hurry up, like I say 64bit is years old...there's no excuse.

[tlouda]

Besides, I am able to run spydoc on two of my 64bit machines, but not on my 3rd one. i was able to once before but then never again.

[FXi]

Any news? I know these things take time :)

[makavelli]

Spyware Doctor still not compatible with 64 at the moment..

[AChen]

We have a 64 bit version of SD currently in testing. If anyone is interested in trying the pre-beta build, let me know and I will try and have this available within the next couple of days.

[Nail64]

If possible, I would like to test it out the pre-build.
Thanks

[AChen]

If possible, I would like to test it out the pre-build.
Thanks

Nail64, I have added you to the beta forum. Once the build is made available, I will provide updates there :)

[Nail64]

Thanks AChen I'll be ready and waiting. :D

[pro-logic]

Hey,

I'm also interested in testing SD x64, as well as any other x64 products you guys have. I remember that the x86 stuff you had was great, but after moving to x64 land I couldn't use it any more.

[AChen]

Hey,

I'm also interested in testing SD x64, as well as any other x64 products you guys have. I remember that the x86 stuff you had was great, but after moving to x64 land I couldn't use it any more.

This has been arranged :) The 64 bit version should be available any time now. We are currently finalizing a few things before its release. Will provide an update shortly.

[swimguitar]

i would love to test any 64 bit stuff. i loved the program when i used xp but when i switched to 64bit vista i couldn't use it.

[AChen]

i would love to test any 64 bit stuff. i loved the program when i used xp but when i switched to 64bit vista i couldn't use it.

I have sent you a PM :)

[cooldude7273]

I'd love to test a client for Vista x64 as well.

I'm really irritated that my license for SD is ticking away not doing a darned thing right now since I upgraded to Vista x64 many months ago....

[AChen]

Hi All,

Just to let you know that the 64 bit beta version of Spyware Doctor is now available. If anyone is interested in trying this version, please send myself a PM and I can arrange this for you :)

[IMZ14U2NV]

Hi All,

Just to let you know that the 64 bit beta version of Spyware Doctor is now available. If anyone is interested in trying this version, please send myself a PM and I can arrange this for you :)

AChen,
Two questions:

1). Can I use this version on a 64Bit Vista machine that is currently running Norton AntiVirus Version 15.0.0.58

2). I am currently licensed for Spyware Doctor, Will my License also be valid for the 64Bit version when it is released to GA.

[AChen]

Hi IMZ14U2NV,

AChen,
Two questions:

1). Can I use this version on a 64Bit Vista machine that is currently running Norton AntiVirus Version 15.0.0.58

2). I am currently licensed for Spyware Doctor, Will my License also be valid for the 64Bit version when it is released to GA.

1) There should be no problems running SD (64bit) with Norton AV.
2) The license code is valid for the 64 bit version of SD.

[Snarfiorix]

I must say, I really like the beta, I have been running it for 5 days now and I hardly notice it is there. I am actually posting this while doing a full scan:D

I ran a full scan after installing and it took 1H 32 min to scan both my 500GB drives which are both for 75% filled with files.

It did find my Vista Ultimate squeaky clean (just a few low threat cookies removes) Not bad for an install that is 6 months old already

I noticed that when Idle, SD will push the CPU to about 50%, but when starting up resource hungry software like Second Life, SD kinda release it's demand on the CPU and I don't even notice it during SL gameplay.
(I was a bit worried that it would affect it)

Some observations:

Smart update seems to trigger UAC when doing a manual smart update. I haven't seen anything that indicates that this version is smart updating automatically.

I would be great to know what actually is working in this version, but so far, when I compare it to SD on one of my Vista 32 bit boxes, this 64 bit version seems to have much less impact on the overall user experience in terms of resources and noticing SD is running in the background.

This may have something to do that the Delphi engine is no longer used (C# for the 64 bit version?)

Anyway, looking forward to see an Internet Security suit coming out for Vista 64 :)

-Asus Crosshair mobo
-AMD 64 X2 5400+ (black box edition)
-4GB SD RAM
-Ati Radeon HD 2600 XT
-Vista Ultimate x64 sp1

[ultrafang]

still waiting for a response from AChen on the 64bit beta link. If anyone has it please pm me.

[AChen]

still waiting for a response from AChen on the 64bit beta link. If anyone has it please pm me.

Sorry for the late reply :o
This has been organized :D

[r3r3]

Hello Achen,


I would really like to beta test the x64 version, is that possible?

Here is my machine's specs:

_ Intel E8400
_ Asus P5E
_ 8gb Corsair dominator 1066mhz DDRII
_ Gameward nvidia 8800GT
_ Raptor 76GB 10K
_ Vista Ultimate x64 sp1



I hope we can work this out, thanks in advance.

Best regards

jmc

[AChen]

Hello Achen,
I would really like to beta test the x64 version, is that possible?

Here is my machine's specs:

_ Intel E8400
_ Asus P5E
_ 8gb Corsair dominator 1066mhz DDRII
_ Gameward nvidia 8800GT
_ Raptor 76GB 10K
_ Vista Ultimate x64 sp1

I hope we can work this out, thanks in advance.

Best regards

jmc

Hi r3r3,

I have arranged this for you :)
Please see PM.

[Ngwana]

...I'm really irritated that my license for SD is ticking away not doing a darned thing right now since I upgraded to Vista x64 many months ago....

Same here! I welcome the 64-bit version beta, unfortunately may not beta-test as my PC is temporarily in mission critical use.

BTW. What is up with the Symantec story? Cheers!

[evelet]

Same here! I welcome the 64-bit version beta, unfortunately may not beta-test as my PC is temporarily in mission critical use.

BTW. What is up with the Symantec story? Cheers!

Symantec story is available here http://www.pctools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53339 :D

[lee emmerton]

We have a 64 bit version of SD currently in testing. If anyone is interested in trying the pre-beta build, let me know and I will try and have this available within the next couple of days.

I have sent you a PM :)

Hi Anthony. I would like to download the 64 bit version also. If you could send me the link to where I can do that. Thank You, Lee.

[AChen]

Hi Anthony. I would like to download the 64 bit version also. If you could send me the link to where I can do that. Thank You, Lee.

Please see PM :)

[DrYannof]

i would like to download and test this version of RM.
system : Windows Vista x64 SP1
thanks

[AChen]

i would like to download and test this version of RM.
system : Windows Vista x64 SP1
thanks

The 64 bit version of RM is not yet available. We are currently working on this and I'll let you know once this is released.

[sdpugsley]

I too would like to test the 64-bit version of Spyware Doctor + Antivirus.

Vista Ultimate 64-bit
Intel quad Q6600
4gb RAM

Regards,
Simon

[Budo7]

It has nothing to do with attitude. It's all about facts. I have friends who are hard core gamers who push their computers to the limit and they have no interest in 64 bit. If they don't then why would the average user, the biggest group of users out there, who does little more than surf the web or send e-mails care about it?? Does your "company" invest in products or services that won't sell enough to show a profit over investment? 64 will be the standard in time but that time is not now.
I am a hard core gamer and I can tell you that I run Vista 64 on one machine and XP on the other. The 64 does make a difference, while most normal users won't see it, gamers do.

[sam3971]

Hi, I am a paying customer of spyware doctor and I was wondering if I can try the beta available for x64 Vista. Right now I am running ESET SS but I like to run spyware doctor. Thanks -Sam

[falcon453]

We have a 64 bit version of SD currently in testing. If anyone is interested in trying the pre-beta build, let me know and I will try and have this available within the next couple of days.

I would like to be able to download and try out the 64 bit version of SD, if you could let me know how I can do this. Thanks

[mjq424]

Hi
All those still requesting to try the 64bit BETA of Spyware Doctor should send a Private Message to AChen here on the board and he will give you access to the forum where information and downloads are available.
Hope that helps

[rdavis]

Hi Anthony. I would like to download the 64 bit version also. If you could send me the link to where I can do that. Thank You, Lee.

Thanks Antony.... Co-worker!!

[malba1]

Hi
All those still requesting to try the 64bit BETA of Spyware Doctor should send a Private Message to AChen here on the board and he will give you access to the forum where information and downloads are available.
Hope that helps

Thanks for the information, I'll send a PM to AChen :)

[AChen]

Hi

I will be adding the users who wish to use the 64 bit beta version of SD for those who have sent a PM. This may take some time going through all the PM's but I will eventually get through them all ;) Apologies for the delay.