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Dazeagle
12-12-2003, 10:35 PM
Hi there guys…
My question isn’t about computers but cell phones. I need to know a little bit infos, and there’s no place better than the communications forum to post in, and I’m sorry for getting out of the subject…
Anyway my question is: what’s the name of the (device, system or whatever) that can make a place (or a building) without cellular phone connections?
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jdharm
12-16-2003, 01:53 PM
...what’s the name of the [device] that can make a place without cellular phone connections?
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Could you please re-state the question.
Josh
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Dazeagle
12-17-2003, 01:40 AM
In some buildings (e.g. hospitals and libraries) due to some action (the one I wanna know) your cellular will loose its connection to the phone company you are dialing with inside the mentioned buildings. So you won't be able to call or to receive calls within the buildings (if you check your cellular you'll get no connection is available) and the callers will think that I went to some place outside without connection or I switched off my cellular …
i wanna know what is going on at the buildings cuts off the connection on the cellular
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Metal. There are a couple older stores in our town that have no cellular in them too.
Dazeagle
12-20-2003, 12:40 AM
thanks Brf,
but there's another case where the same thing happen (in movie theaters for example, your cellular shows that you have a full connection but people can't contact you)
There is some kind of a system applied on such places makes you lose connection, and that's what i want…
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jdharm
12-26-2003, 08:00 AM
If it is being done intentionally, there are two possibilities. One is passive blocking and the other is active jamming.
The practice of active jamming is doable technically, but I believe it is still illegal in the US and many other countries. Currently, the FCC prohibits "intentionally causing interference", even in the 'unregulated' bands like 802.11. But because of the growth of cell phone networks and use by citizens many countries are reviewing their laws to possibly make room for active jamming. It is a relatively simple matter of radiating a signal that is 1/2 wavelength out of phase with the carrier wave of the cell phone network. It is the same principle as noise cancellation used in aviation headsets or high-end headphones.
The passive route is easy to do and not illegal at all. In fact, I know it is done in gov't buildings where wireless contact from the inside is forbidden. One way is to line the walls of a building with a copper mesh, creating what is called a "Faraday Cage". The conducting enclosure acts as an electro-magnetic shield, isolating the inside of the cage from the outside. The size of the holes in the mesh 'tune' the wavelengths that the cage blocks.
I recently attended a wireless training class and heard a good example of this. Someone told of living in an old house, one with walls made of wood slats covered with chicken-wire and plaster. They couldn't get an 802.11B connection through the house from a router, but had no problem with an 802.11G connection. It was speculated that it was because of the difference in the wavelengths between B and G and the size of the holes in the chicken-wire in the walls filtering the B signals in a kind of Faraday cage.
However, I can't think of a way that the cell phones can report a 'full strength signal' but still have no access to the network. Anything that blocks the cell phone frequencies should result in a total loss of signal at the phone.
Josh
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Dazeagle
12-26-2003, 10:15 PM
cooooool
many thanks josh
that's what i want /images/forums/icons/laugh.gif
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Dazeagle
12-26-2003, 10:58 PM
Ohh, I forgot to post about the 'full strength signal' with no access. Happened to me once when I was in a theater. my friends just kept calling me, i know it’s stupid and rude to switch on my cell phone there, i didn’t intend to keep it on, i just forgot about it and i switched it off in the middle of the movie. when I came back they told that my phone was busy the whole time and they couldn’t reach me, i’m really glad that they got the busy signal, people looking at me and wanna kick my **** is the last thing I wanna happen to me there lol
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Dazeagle
12-29-2003, 12:14 AM
sorry forget about 'full strength signal' with no access
my phone has a problem connecting the phone company
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