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SharpTJ
02-04-2003, 12:11 PM
I have got my house wired up with a router and ethernet. All the connections work great when I take my comp. (Win2000 Pro) to all the outlets. It also works everywhere with my bro's runnin XP. I am mainly needing to access files between the Win2000 and Win 95 PC's. Now on to the problems.

Details: 1 PC with Win2000 (mine), 1 PC with WinXP, and 1 PC with Win95 (my dad refuses to change) Internet works on Win2000 and XP but not on the ole Win95.


1) I can't find any other computers in Network Neighborhood. I have Client for Microsoft Networks on the Win2000 and Win95 along with TCP/IP.

2)Win95 computer can not access the internet via ethernet.

Do I need to make 1 computer a server or something? I am almost completely lost now.

John

homeflash
02-04-2003, 02:40 PM
No, you don't need to make a server out of it. Basically you are doing peer to peer network.

First of all, you have to make sure they are all in the subnet mask.
Second, If they are in the same workgroup, it will be nice.
Third, Maybe you want to make sure you can ping all other pcs to make sure your rj45 cable works okay. (It could be hardware issue, try to swap cables and see if it helps)

If the file/print sharing is fine, only internet is having problem, maybe you should check your internet option. Sometimes people forget to change it back when they used to have proxy server set up.

Last of all, if you yourself set up the router, then you should not worry about the following.
Make sure the ip you are using in your win95 is not filter from your router filter list.

hope that helps

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SharpTJ
02-04-2003, 03:46 PM
It's not the cables. I hooked my laptop up and it worked fine. I have XP and 2000 sharing now, but winipcfg says the 95 PC has a IP of 0.0.0.0 and subnet of 0.0.0.0 the rest are 198.162.0.1-198.162.0.3 and all subnets are 255.255.255.0

Thanks
John

homeflash
02-04-2003, 08:29 PM
Can you manually input the ip info onto your win95 machine? That may help.



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SharpTJ
02-04-2003, 09:21 PM
I tried that and it didn't help. there is no light on the router for that connection and LED on the NIC does light up.

7ate9
02-04-2003, 09:56 PM
Might be one of those cases where if you use port 1, you cant use port 2. Or if you use wan port, you cant use port 5, something like that. Check your documentation, see if this is/is not the case.

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thCA
02-04-2003, 11:43 PM
I guess that your router is configured as a "DHCP server". Since the winipcfg on the win95 PC displays 0.0.0.0 the problem is probably between the win95 PC and the DHCP router. Does the NIC work properly? (check device manager).

SharpTJ
02-05-2003, 07:31 AM
I have taken the ethernet card out and blew it off and d/l a new driver (I think) The card is about 3.5 years old and a made by 3Com. The cables to that room are fine because my laptop works fine from in there.

Device manager indicates an ! on the Intel 82371AB PCI USB Universal Host Controller ... it says it doesn't have a driver. But I do not know what it is am looking for.

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SharpTJ
02-08-2003, 01:44 AM
Okay...I finally have everything working. I installed Win98, I can access the internet through the router, from the Win98 PC, I can browse my brother's shared folders, but can not browse mine (Win2000) it asks for a password and I have no idea what it is. I set my permission to allow everyone complete access, but what else should I do to eliminate the password?

mclaughlin21
02-10-2003, 05:06 AM
If your Win2000 is set up as NTFS, Win98 will not be able to see it.

My system is similar - wifes' upstairs pc is Win98 - and she has been set up as a user
on my 2000 machine with Username & Password . (Same user & password as her own pc).

2000 'validates' her access to my machine and allows her to use my poor old dial-up modem -
but not my files or folders, as I'm on NTFS.

Brian

thCA
02-11-2003, 06:28 AM
You should create a new user called "administrator", on the Win98 PC with the same password as your W2k Administrator.

auntieflorrie
02-13-2003, 05:16 PM
seems like you are getting a lot of bum info.
fat/fat32/ntfs - it doesn't matter when you connect via the network.
you don't access the drives directly - you access a share created by the OS, and it accesses the drive, and it can see whatever file system it owns.
Also, creating duplicate accounts is a way of avoiding doing it properly and creates all sorts of security risks.
All you need to do is be authenticated by the 2000/xp , and for that you need the 98 to be configured with the workgroup name the same as the domain name, the primary login to be client for ms networks, and a valid user account created on the domain and used by your dad to login.
you've got half-way there when you power on the 95 and get a login box with 3 fields (inc domain). if there is only user and password fields then it is set for windows as primary login.
the windows login can be synchronised in control panel passwords applet or after getting past the 3 field login he'll be asked for the normal 2 field windows login as well.

good luck.

thCA
02-14-2003, 03:51 AM
Hmm.. I agree with the first part about fat/fat32/ntfs. However this is a small network with only 3 computers, and they are not connected to any DC(domain controller). I assume that they are members of the same workgroup. The question is: how can the Win98 PC access shared folders on the w2k PC?

and my suggestion is:

1. Log on to the W2k PC as administrator and share a folder.

2. Create a user called administrator on the Win98 PC

3. Log on to the Win98 PC as administrator and then access the shared folder.

this is just an example to get started and not a permanent solution. Perhaps it`s better to create a complete new user without administator rights on both Computers.

I Hope to get feedback on this :)

SharpTJ
02-14-2003, 07:15 AM
Correct, I do not have a domain. Also, The Win2000 and the Win98 are in the same workgroup. What I did was create a user called administrator on the Win98 PC and set the password the same as administrator on my Win98 machine. Now when my dad logs on as his username, everything works great.

The XP machine is in a different workgroup (due to his work) and everytime he tries to access my shares, it asks for a username and password, if I supply administrator and the password it connects. But I would rather him not know my admin password if possible.