simple network (W98)

[crono_79]

im trying to network 2 pcs with win98. they are connected to each other with a crossover cable.

the problem is that none of them sees each other, one of them cant even see itself in network neighborhood. the led on the nics are turned on on both pc's. both are sharing the c drive

what am i doing wrong?

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by crono_79 on 01/30/03 14:47.</FONT></P>

[jdharm]

Right click on Network Neighborhood and choose properties.

You need to see the following to do what you are trying to do:

Your LAN adapter
TCP/IP
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer sharing for Microsoft Networks

Make sure that these things are present at least. Check the TCP/IP properties and ensure that both computers are not trying to use the same IP. Then reboot both. If it still doesn't work then post back the entire components list from the network properties for us so we know what we are dealing with.

Josh

[i]Sorry folks, I'm an idiot. Moose out front shoulda told ya. [i]

[homeflash]

can you ping them?

Did you set up as in tcp/ip or netbeui?

ping them first and see if they are pingable..



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[mysterywolf]

fastest/easiest is netbeui

in network properties..

1.add netbeui protocol
2.remove tcp/ip and ipx/spx if present
3 reboot
4. net props , workgroup names same on both, but machine names different. rebbot if reqd.
5. share a folder on each pc
turn both off and on again and wait a couple of minutes for them to see each other

[tRp]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

fastest/easiest is netbeui

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Also a opens a huge security hole. Never suggest to someone to install netbeui.

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[auntieflorrie]

since the netbeui protocol does not work with routing i.e. only those on the local subnet can use it, your statement is about as wrong as you could get. In fact the release notes for NT/98 using MS Proxy advise that if at all possible restrict your local network to netbeui, thus eliminating the majority of security risks in one stroke. Impractical for all but home users admittedly.
A pc using only netbeui can only communicate with netbeui. Netbeui cannot be used by anything going through any routing, e.g. from the web.

I really can't believe you said that!

[jdharm]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

In fact the release notes for NT/98 using MS Proxy advise that if at all possible restrict your local network to netbeui...

<hr></blockquote>LOL. My boss tells me that before I came to work for him they were having some serious problems, I don't remember what, on their NT network here at a school campus and they tried everything they could to fix it. They ended up having to call Microsoft about it and he said the guy on the phone didn't even let him finish describing the problem before he told him to get rid of netbeui completely and that would fix all his problems. And it did.

Josh

[i]Sorry folks, I'm an idiot. Moose out front shoulda told ya. [i]

[auntieflorrie]

because a campus network will certainly involve routers etc and netbeui won't work unless its one simple , single physical subnet. I stressed that. But in such cases it is not just faster than any other protocol but many many times faster.
that campus would also need e.g. tcp/ip for its routing and having both would be not such a good idea.
unless the original poster owns a campus I stick by my advice.

[jdharm]

Oh, I wasn't contradicting you. Based on this thread and others you sound like you know a lot more about how the whole thing works on a basic level than I do. I just got a picture in my head of a guy in a cubicle in Redmond typing up some white papers saying to try to stick to NetBEUI exclusively and the guy in the next cubicle over on the phone telling someone to get rid of NetBEUI completely. In my head it was a funny picture.

Sure, it was a picture based on inaccuracies and ignorance on my part, but comedy is all about the absurd, right?

Josh

[i]Sorry folks, I'm an idiot. Moose out front shoulda told ya. [i]

[auntieflorrie]

an expert who insists their way tells you more about their own knowledge (or lack of) than they do about the subject itself. Its all about horses for courses in the real world and judging whats best for you , not their ego, don't you think...and I can take a bit of criticism so no bother!