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mchampfl
09-01-1999, 08:07 PM
i have given up! i'm to old for this stuff! no more crusades for me! my motto today is to avoid doing battle with the registry at all costs. it just simply isn't worth it. and what do i do about these problems??...

enter my superhero, PowerQuest's DriveImage utility! i carry around in my hip pocket a CDRW with an image of a 600mb virgin win95 partition on it. this partition was built from scratch on the model of the most popular pc in our office. it has preinstalled on it (for which we have legitimate licenses) office97, wordperfect, lotus123, accounting, netware client, email, winzip, quickview, printers, network, drive maps, etc, etc, etc.

if a user's machine starts misbehaving, i don't spend more than 15-30 minutes chasing gremlins or attempting exorcisms. i whip out my CDRW and my superhero DriveImage dos boot diskette and push the button. sit and chat with the user, drink a soda, wait 20 minutes, and voila'! they're back in business, fresh as baby's breath!

and what if the machine in question is not the same model/configuration as the one in which the partition was built? no problem! ah, the miracle of plug-n-play! that's why i use win95. give it an extra 10 minutes, 7 or 8 reboots, ALL my drivers sitting right on the CDRW - piece of cake!

of course, this presumes that all pc's in the office are foundationally the same. i had to lobby for this to some degree, and there are a few machines that i'll have to install an additional piece of software or two.

nt40 would require you to keep a unique partition for each type of machine - but even this is better than groping in the dark voids of the registry. and the users cannot expect to keep a custom environment other than what they can save onto the network. (therein lies half my problem anyway - screensavers, instant messengers, games, etc.)

i also do this on my home pc. i no longer am afraid of my kids and their sadistic desire to turn my pc into a frankenstein. i have 2 partitions - c: has my foundational installs on it (wp, spreadsheet, pim, browser, printers, etc.) and EVERYTHING else on d:. data, subsequent software installs, internet cache, EVERYTHING. when i build c:, i save an image of it and restore it whenever i need to. if i want to add something to the foundation, i restore, install, and recreate the image. sure i have to reinstall all the software that was on d: after a restore, but most of those are games that the kids have lost interest in anyway. so i only bother with the ones they're screaming for.

restoring a partition avoids addressing the problem in its fundamentals, but when i can give the boss a repair time of 20-30 minutes that is not open-ended, it sure keeps him happy!

why not, you say, just restore a virgin registry? because the registry is not always the culprit. the other major source of instability is .dll conflicts (a whole different conversation). a virgin PARTITION solves all of these dilemmas with one possible exception that i'm a little weak on. and that's hardware entries. when the partition is applied to a machine different from what it was originally built on, pnp kicks in very nicely. but i worry that some entries may be left that could come back and haunt me - although i have not experienced that problem in the 2 years i have had this practice in place. i have on a couple of occasions had to go into device manager and delete EVERYTHING and then reboot and/or run 'detect new hardware'. even this seems to work fine.

now, i'm sharing this here because you may find value in my approach, but more so to get your reaction to it. do you have a better (read that less time, hassle, money, groping) way of managing windows instability?

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09-01-1999, 09:08 PM
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BobD
09-02-1999, 12:02 AM
I've been using something very similar to that. Ghost software! My image is on the network. I simply insert my bootable disk that automatically loads the network drivers and logs me into the network, all I have to do is type in my password and hit the return key. (I haven't figured out how to get my password entered into the batch file automatically, I almost figured it out once, my password got accepted then it would lock up 100% of the time, so my method isn't fully automatic, but damn near!) Next I go to the drive and directory where the program ghost is, and execute ghost.exe.
To really speed things up, all my images (I have several because of different computer model types, video cards, and NICs are different. These 3 things really make PnP go crazy!) have a directory with the minimum files and drivers needed to access the network through dos. This way if I have to restore things I can boot up the computer, press F8, go to the Dos prompt, change to that directory and start the batch file that loads the dos NIC drivers, because hard drive access is so much quicker then floppy drive access.
For a base computer I use to install software for everybody else to install I have to constantly reghost my machine with the Windows 95 basic fresh clean setup! I take a snapshot of the computer's setup before the installation, install the software, and take a snapshot of it after the software installed and record it to a file used for everybody else to install exactly the same way.
After that I reghost it and do it all over again. For this setup I created a batch file that is left in the root of the local hard drive. Now I bootup, press F8, select the Dos Prompt, and type restore. All I have to do is login, that's it the rest is automatic! It even reboots itself! Waiting for me to login to the Windows session. This whole ghost image (approx. 120MB) takes about 2minutes and 45sec! The transfer rate shows to be about an average of 40mb/min. Now when I dump an image to be saved I can do this through windows and the transfer rate shows to be about 3 to 8 times faster. It starts out really fast and then gradually transfers slower. Do you know why there is a speed difference between Dos and Windows? Either way you run the program it's still dos based.
Now with Norton Ghost ver 5.1 you can view folders and files that are within the images, and also extract files from the images. You can even run some programs that are in there also!

Another note about the danger of using the imaged method, see my question about DHCPINFOxx. This problem started recently and I think it may have to do with the DHCP server itself.